Online forums and communities present a largely untapped opportunity for making money — at least according to Dan Gill, cofounder and chief executive of Huddler.
The San Francisco startup is officially launching today. It’s one of those weird launches where the company has actually been working with customers for more than a year, and is only now getting around to telling the media that it exists. Gill said he wanted to make sure the technology was solid before doing too much to publicize it and attract competition.
Community-building software is a broad category, but Huddler approaches the market with a specific audience and mission. It’s looking for popular, product-focused forums that are built on either vBulletin or phpBB technology. Huddler contacts the owner of the site, offering to modernize the forum and bring in more money too.
Gill gave me a long list of benefits that Huddler can offer over older platforms. It gives the sites a makeover, so they look a bit less old-fashioned, not to mention more advertising-friendly. It optimizes the pages for search engines, and also makes them easier to share through Facebook Connect. And all the software is hosted online, rather than installed on someone’s computer, which means there’s less hassle for whoever’s managing the site.
Financially, there’s not much risk to the forum owner, since the software is free. Huddler is only paid by through a percentage of the increased revenue that it brings to a site. That revenue boost comes in a number of ways, Gill said — since the sites are product-focused, Huddler creates a product page with a link where visitors can buy the item in question. It also allows companies selling related products to create their own pages on the forum and engage with the community. And of course the sites can run advertising.
The transition to Huddler can be a challenging one because of the technology issues, as well as the likelihood that change will upset some forum members. Gill didn’t offer any details, but he hinted that he has seen his share of angry comments from users who didn’t like a new forum. But Huddler has become more proficient at both moving content to a new site and preparing users for the change, he said.
There are now 24 sites using Huddler, adding up to a total of 9 million unique monthly visitors. The success stories include EpicSki, which saw a 70 percent increase in natural search traffic after switching to Huddler, and DenimBlog, which doubled pageviews in two months and is now bringing in three times the amount of revenue.
Huddler raised $5.5 million in funding from New Enterprise Associates last year. For now, the company is focusing on existing forums because they’ve already got the audience, but Gill said, “There’s no reason you won’t be able to start your own Huddles in the future.”
[image via Flickr/Daniel Borman]
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Digital cameras can tell a head from a bed, Facebook organises photos by manually-added face tags, iPhoto tries its best to put a name to a face. But really good technology to auto-identify the people in pictures could have big application on the web.
Last week, Apple (NSDQ: AAPL) was rumoured to have acquired Polar Rose, a Swedish company making such software for web and other uses, for $29 million.
Now, Tel Aviv, Israel-based Face.com, which says its software can automatically pluck out any pictures of you from Facebook’s seven billion photos, has raised a $4.3 million second-round investment, as that prospect steps up.
The Face.com money is coming from VC Rhodium, Russian search site Yandex and existing backers. “We’re going to use the money to boost our development team, hire some new and talented people, and build out additional infrastructure,” CEO Gil Hirsh blogs.
The uses for true facial recognition are clear to see…
—Facebook could eliminate the need for users to “tag” friends in pictures.
—Mobile phones could automatically identify portrait subjects before photos are shared with online services.
—Searchers like Google (NSDQ: GOOG) and Yandex could make their image search more accurate.
—iPhoto could improve its people-centric picture library.
—Ditch the business cards: just point a camphone at a new contact’s face to get his/her details.
For these and other reasons, visual recognition could become a hot M&A area. Consider what Google is doing with its mobile shopping app and Google Googles app, having this year acquired a visual art recognition startup to bolster the latter.
The model: licensing. Polar Rose this month closed its free face-tagging demo service to concentrate on licensing its technology to users. It and Face.com use APIs to enable facial recognition for third parties.
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Online forums and communities present a largely untapped opportunity for making money — at least according to Dan Gill, cofounder and chief executive of Huddler.
The San Francisco startup is officially launching today. It’s one of those weird launches where the company has actually been working with customers for more than a year, and is only now getting around to telling the media that it exists. Gill said he wanted to make sure the technology was solid before doing too much to publicize it and attract competition.
Community-building software is a broad category, but Huddler approaches the market with a specific audience and mission. It’s looking for popular, product-focused forums that are built on either vBulletin or phpBB technology. Huddler contacts the owner of the site, offering to modernize the forum and bring in more money too.
Gill gave me a long list of benefits that Huddler can offer over older platforms. It gives the sites a makeover, so they look a bit less old-fashioned, not to mention more advertising-friendly. It optimizes the pages for search engines, and also makes them easier to share through Facebook Connect. And all the software is hosted online, rather than installed on someone’s computer, which means there’s less hassle for whoever’s managing the site.
Financially, there’s not much risk to the forum owner, since the software is free. Huddler is only paid by through a percentage of the increased revenue that it brings to a site. That revenue boost comes in a number of ways, Gill said — since the sites are product-focused, Huddler creates a product page with a link where visitors can buy the item in question. It also allows companies selling related products to create their own pages on the forum and engage with the community. And of course the sites can run advertising.
The transition to Huddler can be a challenging one because of the technology issues, as well as the likelihood that change will upset some forum members. Gill didn’t offer any details, but he hinted that he has seen his share of angry comments from users who didn’t like a new forum. But Huddler has become more proficient at both moving content to a new site and preparing users for the change, he said.
There are now 24 sites using Huddler, adding up to a total of 9 million unique monthly visitors. The success stories include EpicSki, which saw a 70 percent increase in natural search traffic after switching to Huddler, and DenimBlog, which doubled pageviews in two months and is now bringing in three times the amount of revenue.
Huddler raised $5.5 million in funding from New Enterprise Associates last year. For now, the company is focusing on existing forums because they’ve already got the audience, but Gill said, “There’s no reason you won’t be able to start your own Huddles in the future.”
[image via Flickr/Daniel Borman]
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Last week, Apple (NSDQ: AAPL) was rumoured to have acquired Polar Rose, a Swedish company making such software for web and other uses, for $29 million.
Now, Tel Aviv, Israel-based Face.com, which says its software can automatically pluck out any pictures of you from Facebook’s seven billion photos, has raised a $4.3 million second-round investment, as that prospect steps up.
The Face.com money is coming from VC Rhodium, Russian search site Yandex and existing backers. “We’re going to use the money to boost our development team, hire some new and talented people, and build out additional infrastructure,” CEO Gil Hirsh blogs.
The uses for true facial recognition are clear to see…
—Facebook could eliminate the need for users to “tag” friends in pictures.
—Mobile phones could automatically identify portrait subjects before photos are shared with online services.
—Searchers like Google (NSDQ: GOOG) and Yandex could make their image search more accurate.
—iPhoto could improve its people-centric picture library.
—Ditch the business cards: just point a camphone at a new contact’s face to get his/her details.
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SON says:
September 9th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
DAD I AM HOMOSEX.
DAD says:
September 9th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
SON I AM DISAPPOINT.
Rob Mac says:
September 9th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Or we could simply “print” money to retire some of our debt. This would reassure people who get freaked out at the size of the debt and would have the same inflationary effect of handing the money out to American citizens. The stimulative effect would likely be a bit less, but I’d take that tradeoff.
JR says:
September 9th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Aren’t you missing the role of international trade. What you say makes sense if all goods and services are produced locally. Once you take intl. trade into account, more/printed money could simply go into buying more from other countries, who could theoretically hold that money for an indefinite time.
chris says:
September 9th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
It’s true that at some point the money-printing would spark high inflation.
Yes — specifically, after aggregate demand was boosted to the point that it exceeded aggregate supply. We’re nowhere near that point — I think literally trillions of dollars short of it — so there’s plenty of room to play around with helicopter drops. Please do, Mr. Bernanke.
timmie says:
September 9th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Did that truly huge spike in Fed spending 2008-2009 lead to rapid economic growth? No. What evidence is there that things would be any different now? None.
The Great Reckoning that we are now experiencing was, as your cite points out, only postponed through half a decade of public and private debt increasing by 10% a year and when that became unsustainable our financial system cratered.
Does anyone think we can return to those levels of profligacy for five years or more? Does anyone doubt that even that level of new debt would prove inadequate to cure what ails us?
Our recent history has been one huge Keynesian experiment gone wrong. But to put out the fire in the dining room Matt wants to burn down the house.
chris says:
September 9th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Did that truly huge spike in Fed spending 2008-2009 lead to rapid economic growth? No.
No, it only halted a once-in-a-century level of economic collapse in its tracks.
But I guess since the first gallon of water didn’t put the fire out, it’s time to abandon that plan and switch to gasoline.
Ape Man says:
September 9th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
“Or we could simply “print” money to retire some of our debt.”
This is incorrect. If you think it through, it will help you understand how money works on the macro scale.
A treasury note is an account at the Fed that bears interest. It has a fixed, often very short, term of maturity.
If you “print money” to “retire” that debt, all you are doing is changing those interest-bearing Fed accounts into non interest-bearing Fed accounts. The people who held those dollars want to hold them as Treasury notes. They will immediately reinvest them in… Treasury notes.
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zyxw says:
September 9th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Another structural problem now is income inequality. If income was spread out more fairly there would be a lot more money spent generating more jobs, etc. There’s only so much the super rich can spend–after awhile you really can’t buy that much more stuff, so instead they are hoarding it at the moment waiting for the economy to rebound so they can eventually invest in something and make even more money to hoard.
Shooter242 says:
September 9th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
* You can print all the money you want but if people don’t want to borrow, it doesn’t matter.
* As for throwing everybody a grand, it didn’t work with Bush’s $600 because you and everyone else knows it’s a one-off.
* Then there is the payroll credit for about the same amount of money, how did that work out?
Do you think our problem could be related to Congress serving up legislative pigs in a poke? For all it’s wonderfulness, health insurance in Massachusetts has led to Mass Gen Hospital
to barring new primary care patients. Now imagine that over an entire country. Any chance that would lead to more saving and less spending?
As for income inequality, Al Gore making millions has no effect on anyone that he doesn’t employ. Interestingly, the US is pretty far down on the property rights ladder globally. Apparently we are behind China, Gambia, and Jordan. Having yahoos here threaten to confiscate wealth by hook or crook, isn’t reassuring.
BB says:
September 9th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
So, why do we even keep track of the deficit? I accept the fact that we have a sovereign currency, not on a gold standard, etc., which means that we don’t have to go in debt (i.e. sell bonds) for every dollar we print/create. Thus taxation is merely an anti-inflationary measure. So…shouldn’t we just keep track of inflation and adjust our federal spending accordingly, since the deficit doesn’t actually mean anything?
urgs says:
September 10th, 2010 at 2:23 am
Defraud small savers (thats allright, since so many of them are foreigners nowadays – evil Chinese, many of them living from less than 1$ a day), shovel some windfall gains to big business ===> ?????????? =====> Jobs!
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Evil Twin says:
September 10th, 2010 at 2:35 am
You can print all the money you want but if people don’t want to borrow, it doesn’t matter.
And here we see the return of the invisible bear riding phantom bond vigilantes. Yes, the modifiers are a bit unclear. That’s because Shooter is a fucking moron whose knowledge of financial matters is roughly the same as a four month old.
Hey, dumbfuck, do you know what you do when people don’t want to borrow money from you? You raise the stakes, you promise them more in return for loaning you the money. Do you know what interest rates look like right this moment you dimwitted clod?
Come back when you have something to say that isn’t discredited talking points.
Lewis says:
September 10th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
At the risk of confirming Matt’s views, I think Prof Keen explains it well : http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/2010/09/05/back-to-the-future/
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September 11th, 2010 at 5:50 am
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